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Post  xPRINCEx on Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:36 pm

[Guia]Champion Slasher
Esta no es una guia q te diga todo lo q tienes q hacer, donde levelear, q skills le pongo ni nada de eso, si quieren eso pueden buscarse otra guia por q esta explica la construccion de un tanker slasher.


3 Simples pasos para los stat
-Primero busca los 140 de aspd con berserk.
-Luego cuando tengas suficiente con buscate unos anillos de agi lvl 60/40 y busca el 140 de aspd pasivo.
-Desde nivel 70 puedes agregar mas agi para alcansar los 210 aspd con berserk.

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-Mi Champion es nivel 80 ahora gracias a dios, Empiesa añadiendo str para el daño.Un Skill q les recomiendo, es Sword Mastery ya q a lvl 8 te añade 80 de atake base y a lvl 10 40 extra. Eso ayuda mucho con el daño del IS.


Aburrido de ser tanke y q te maten los con voy las sm y las cleric? Esta es tu guia entonces

El proposito del champion slasher

Hacer un daño decente y al mismo tiempo segir siendo un tanke con 10k de hp para poder pegar fuerte y tankear lo que sea!

Pro:
Fuerte en daño y defensa, gran velocidad de atake.


Por q 210 de ASPD??

Todos deberian saber q las skill primarias del tanke para atakar son primal rage y IS pero Primal rage apesar de pegar tanto es casi imposible peggarle a enemigos del mismo nivel, lo q llevaria a obtener 210 aspd para pegar mucho mas con el IS

Como Obtengo 210 aspd?

Esto requiere 83 de agi y berserk nivel 10, Cuando no uses berserk tendras 156 de aspd lo q quiere decir q tienes el IS con el primer multiplicador y una buen cantidad de velocidad de atake.


Que equipos deverias usar?

1)Uno de los equipos muy importantes son Kiss of nick (10 agi 3 con) este ayudaria mucho a tener 83 agi, ya q tenemos pocos stat
2)Forga unas 14 wind en tus botas osea wind lvl 4, esto te daria 20 agi y con los otros 20 de kiss of nick tendrias q tener 40 agi base
3)Agrega agi a tu stat y ve reseteando agi lentamente mientras vas añadiendo winds a tus botas
4)Para las botas les recomendaria CA Pawstone por la velocidad, El champion slasher deve moverse rapido por el tiempo q dura el berserker, En el tiempo de berserker puedes hacer unos 4 slash si no desperdicias el tiempo.
5)intenta tener gemas unicas lvl 4 en tus cosas a ecepcion de los guantes q les debes forgar lustrius para el hit rate.
6)Los guantes de boss stone dan +70 hit rate, deberias consegirlos.

Porque solamente no saco pet de agi?

Ahi empiesas
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not good... because like crusaders, if you're only trying to maintain a certain aspd, you will want something that can be precisely adjusted. You can not reset the stat pts you add onto a fairy, which means depending on a fairy to get 210 aspd is a bad investment in the long run. If you were instead adjusting your base AGI (with agi resets) it would be easier to reroute those freed stat points into str.
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Que pet nesesito?

Primero una pet de con por q te daria mas vida y defensa, y segundo una pet de str ya q no te iria mal tener mas atake para pegar mas con IS, o podrias usar la loca idea de tener una pet de 2da generacion (str) con stat de con para q al hacer possesion te de mas str.



Cuanta con nesesito??

Cuando estaba experimentando Añadi unos 40 de agi al principio, Recuerdo q los guantes de boss stone y la CA paw añaden agi asi q resetee agi hasta 35. Toda la agi a que resetee la añadi a con, NO IGNOREN LA CON, es el stat primario del champ. Por nivel 73 solo queria maximisar mi con ya q estaba en 93 y tmb tenia unos puntos en str, gracias al evento de navidad que me dio 3 stat extra, eso me vino muy bien

Realmente nesesito forgar gemas o se puede sin hacerlo?

Esta guia es parecida a la de un crusader, siempre nesesitas gemas de alto nivel forgadas en todas tus cosas

Que hay de las armas?

Con el Sacrifice agregando puntos a la agi esta bien. Tu Str es bajo, asi q como slasher nesesitas un arma muy bunea, el judgement of enigma o una colosus sword con gemas del nivel mas alto q puedas para aumentar tu daño quedaria perfecto.


Donde encuentro la collosus sword?

Autumn Island Boss
Lv 75 Pirate Captain 008 - Colossus Sword(Champion)

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Que skills deberia aprender un tank slasher? Bueno te recomiendo estos

- Concentration : Lv2
- Sword Mastery : Lv3
- Break Armor : Lv4
- Tiger Roar : Lv5
- Greatsword Mastery : Lv10
- Strengthen : Lv3
- Mighty Strike : Lv2
- Howl : Lv1
- Blood Bull : Lv10
- Primal Rage : Lv10
- Illusion Slash : Lv10
- Berserk : Lv10

Puedes obtenerlos todos a 76!

Despues de tenerlos todos como te dije debes buscar mas daño fisico.

-Sword Mastery : Lv10

Puedes maximisarlo a lvl 82!

Puede subir nivel solo??

Siempre nesesitaras ayuda, pero si no hay nadie para ayudarte puedes ir a mirage solo, aun q es lento pero todavia puedes con 156 aspd pasivo




Los stat son limitados, y cada uno tiene su costo

Pretende q el personaje es un gran mercado. el negocio son los puntos, Y las comodidades con el daño la defensa el hp y etc etc.

Digamos q nuestro personaje es nivel 100. En nivel 100, Tendras 184 puntos, mm, "Dinero" para gastar xD. Ahora savemos q nadie nesesitaria 69 de agi apra los 140 de aspd(Discutido aqui). Alternativamente, 83 de agi con max berserker, segun la guia de lotus. eso significa q usaste 64 puntso, dejando a cambio 120. por otro lado, si vas por 83 de agi gastarias 78, lo q dejaria solo 106 para gastar, eso es 14 puntos de diferencia.

note: el daño figurado aqui abajo esta figurado en una forma como q estuvieras desnudo, sin equipos

Ok establesimos q para tener 140 de apd tienes q usar 64 puntos. Mientras q para 210 aspd con berserk maximisado(y siges disfrutando de los 140 de aspd pasivos), te cuesta 78 puntos.
Basicamente hablando de IS:

gastar 78 pts = 7.5x daño temporal con berserk, 5x permanente sin berserk
gastar 64 pts = 5x daño permanente

que hay de la str?? Bueno gracias a dios los tankes usan la misma tabla de daño. Cuanto daño crees q ganaras si pones lo perdido en str? (pretendiendo q pudieras ir sobre el limite)

añadiendo 120 pts a str = 125 base str = 437/437 daño base
añadiendo 106 pts a str = 111 base str = 360/360 daño base

La Formula del IS:

DañoFinalDelSlash = ( Daño Base * (100 - PhyResist)/100) - Defensa * MultiplicadordeASPD * NivelDelSkill * AjusteDeLaDiferenciaDeNivel


en esta situacion si asumimos q tiene 0 phyresist 0 defensa, IS lvl 10, y no hay ajuste de diferencia de nivel el daño se basaria solo en el daño base y el multiplicador de aspd

Lv10 IS @ 210 ASPD = 7.5x multiplicador de daño
Lv10 IS @ 140 ASPD = 5x multiplicador de daño


Comapremos?

83 (7 AGI / 111 (106) STR = 210/140 ASPD, 360 Daño Base
210FSD = (360 * (100 - 0)/100 - 0) * 7.5
210FSD = 2,700

140FSD = (360 * (100 - 0)/100 - 0) * 5
140FSD = 1,800


69 (64) AGI / 125 (120) STR = 140 ASPD, 437 Daño Base
140FSD = (437 * (100 - 0)/100 - 0) * 5
140FSD = 2,185




Entonces, Cual quieres tu? un slash constante de 2185? O uno constante de 1800 q puede llegar a 2700 con berserk? Porsupuesto q la vercion de berserk ya que es mejor. Pero no te olvides q no emos añadido la con a la equacion todavia. si eres el champ tradicional q añade con, Solo puedes añadir stats eligiendo entre agi y str. si gastas puntos en los 2, tendras un daño mediocre y talves no suficiente aspd, q debes corregir con tu equipo.

Para los champs tradicionales, la aspd es mas barata q el daño, pero si tienen una build exotica, como slasher, el daño se vuelve mas barato q la aspd.

A los champ tradicionales les recomendaria agi hasta el multiplicador de aspd y luego fijarse en el daño del IS. Amenos q tu build no te deje tener lvl 10 berserk, en ese caso una build de 140 aspd constante estaria bien.
El Ingles no lo pondre esta vez pq haria espacio
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Post  Mammabear on Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:32 am

waaaaaa somebody translate it for me please
seems to be a nice one but i cant read it Sad
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Post  Brigadier on Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:29 am

Sorry Mamma, I would like to but I think thats Windows job for being a Spanish Translator.
WINDOWS WHERE R U???
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Post  xPRINCEx on Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:06 pm

My friend chuck helped me to make that guide


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Post  Brigadier on Sun Mar 29, 2009 4:28 am

Well cool hopefully its a good guide when its in English. I would like to see it and maybe use it one day.
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Post  Windows on Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:28 am

ZZzz why me ask to pure to do that lol is to large for me xDD (im VERY LAZY XDD)
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Post  Brigadier on Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:58 pm

awa..!! Windows.! its your job.! as a Admin.! since you know how to speak and write spanish just as better as me and Mamma your obligated to do it.!
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Post  Windows on Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:26 am

ZZ DAMN U XD
Rewards for this = 99999999999 unseal creditss XDDD(for me XD) clown
[Guide]Champion Slasher

Esta no es una guia q te diga todo lo q tienes q hacer, donde levelear, q skills le pongo ni nada de eso, si quieren eso pueden buscarse otra guia por q esta explica la construccion de un tanker slasher.


3 easy steps for the stats
-first reach 140 aspd with berserk.
- later when u got a lot of con go and buy some agi rings lvl 60/40 and reach 140 aspd w/o berserk
-when u are lvl70 u can add more agi for reach 210 aspd with berserk.

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-my champ is lvl80 thnx to god lol, start adding str for the damage.i suggest to u to have sword mastery at lvl 8 (it adds to u 80 more att and at lvl10 40 more).thats help a lot with the IS (damage)


Bored from by a tank and get killed from voys , sm and cleric?then this is ur guide ^^

a champion slasher can do:

do a lot of damage and at the same time u can be a tank with 10k of hp.

+:
High att and def and a lot of aspd.


why 210 of ASPD??

coz u can hit a lot more with IS (u hit a lot wit pr but is hard to hit to a enemy of the same lvl than u)

how i get 210 aspd?

u need 83 points in agi and berserk lvl10, (156 aspd with out berserk , so u got the 2x damage of the IS and u hit fast xDD)


what equips should i use ????

1)one of the most importatns equips is the Kiss of nick (10 agi 3 con) this help a lot with the aspd
2)forge 14 GoW in ur botes, then u will got 20+ of agi and with the others 20 kiss of nick u will got 40 more of agi
3)add points to agi and reset it when u are adding wind gems
4)i suggest u to get CA Pawstone for the aspd, u need to be fast coz u got only a little time for the berserk lol , u can do 4 slash if u dont waste ur time
5)try to get lvl 4 in ur equips but dont forge ur gloves coz u will ne lustrius gem fot the hit rate
6)the gloves of the boss stone give u +70 hit rate, try to get it

why i dont get a agi fairy ????(damn i want to know )(windows XD)

lets start
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Originally Posted by Chuck View Post

not good... because like crusaders, if you're only trying to maintain a certain aspd, you will want something that can be precisely adjusted. You can not reset the stat pts you add onto a fairy, which means depending on a fairy to get 210 aspd is a bad investment in the long run. If you were instead adjusting your base AGI (with agi resets) it would be easier to reroute those freed stat points into str.




how many con i need??

when i was tring i added 40 points in agi, the gloves of the boss stone and the ca paw gived me agi so i reset it to 35 . i added the points from agi to con, DONT IGNOR THE CON ZZZ !! XD, is the most important stat of cham . in the lvl73 i only wanted to max my con coz i haved 93 points in con and some points in str , thnx to the event of x-mas lol it gived to me 3 more points to add =D

i really need to forge ?

this guide is like a crusader guide , ever u will need high lvl gems in ur equips

and what about the weapons ????(zzz i dont understand what he tried to say )

with the Sacrifice adding points in agi will be great. ur str is low,so u will need a very good weapon ,JoE or a colosus sword with high lvl gems will be perfect


where i can get the colossus sword?

Autumn Island Boss
Lv 75 Pirate Captain 008 - Colossus Sword(Champion)

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what skills i need ? i suggest to u

- Concentration : Lv2
- Sword Mastery : Lv3
- Break Armor : Lv4
- Tiger Roar : Lv5
- Greatsword Mastery : Lv10
- Strengthen : Lv3
- Mighty Strike : Lv2
- Howl : Lv1
- Blood Bull : Lv10
- Primal Rage : Lv10
- Illusion Slash : Lv10
- Berserk : Lv10

u can get it all in lvl76!

after that ull need more att so add more points to :

-Sword Mastery : Lv10

at lvl 82!

can i lvlup alone ??????????????????????????''??

always will nedd help but u can go to mirage alone but that will be slow xD




all stats are limited , and all got a cost (ZZZZZZ i hate u prince make more short guides -.-""")

...

lets think that our char is lvl 100.in lvl100, ull got 184 points,u know no1 need 69 of agi for 140 aspd. 83 point of agi and with max berserk(as the guide of lotus say).that mean u used 64 point, and left 120. if u go for 83 of agi that mean u added 78 points in agi , and that left 106 points for add .

note:this is with out eqips

Ok for get 140 of aspd u will need 64 puntos. and for 210 aspd with berserk lvl10, u will need 78 points.
Basicamente hablando de IS:

waste 78 pts = 7.5x damage with berserk, 5x w/o berserk
waste 64 pts = 5x always

and what about the str ??????thnx to god the champs use the same table of damage .how many damage u think u will get if u add if u add the points that u had lost in str ??? (zzz if u can have more than 100 str)

adding 120 pts tos str = 125 base str = 437/437 base damage
adding 106 pts a str = 111 base str = 360/360 base damage

Formule of the IS!!:

DañoFinalDelSlash = ( Base damage * (100 - PhyResist)/100) - Def* MultiplicadordeASPD * lvloftheskill * diference of lvl


if u think that the mob got 0 phyresist 0 def, IS lvl 10, and there is not dif of lvl it will be based in the base damage y and the aspd

Lv10 IS @ 210 ASPD = 7.5x multiplicador de daño
Lv10 IS @ 140 ASPD = 5x multiplicador de daño


Lets Compare ?

83 (7 AGI / 111 (106) STR = 210/140 ASPD, 360 Base Damage
210FSD = (360 * (100 - 0)/100 - 0) * 7.5
210FSD = 2,700

140FSD = (360 * (100 - 0)/100 - 0) * 5
140FSD = 1,800


69 (64) AGI / 125 (120) STR = 140 ASPD, 437 Base damage
140FSD = (437 * (100 - 0)/100 - 0) * 5
140FSD = 2,185




and who u will choose?a slash of 2185 always ?or 1 of 1800 and u can get 2700 withberserk? of course u will choose the berserk 1 lol coz its better xD. but dont forget we didnt add the con to the formule. if u are the traditional champ who add con , only u can add stats choosing between agi or str . and if u add points to both, u will get a fuking shit damage XDD and not a lot of aspd.

for the con chamos the aspd is more cheap ,but if u got a exotic build like a slasher,the damage is more expensive than the aspd.

Translated by windows ZZZZ

(u know my english is not good so ull pay me more =D XDD)

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Post  Mammabear on Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:46 am

i agree, some unsealedpoints for our translator XD
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Post  Brigadier on Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:01 pm

Nice Job bro thanks.! and yes.! Windows deserves some Credits or something good.!
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Post  Mammabear on Tue Mar 31, 2009 5:08 pm

adding 120 pts tos str = 125 base str = 437/437 base damage
adding 106 pts a str = 111 base str = 360/360 base damage


euhhmmm, 1 little problem here, just like in normal ToP most PS's do NOT allow u more then 100 basestats O.o
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Post  xPRINCEx on Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:28 am

You like the guide?? 3 days making it, with chuck..

lol! Cya
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Post  xPRINCEx on Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:35 am

Windows translate only like 7 words, XD!!! And me i worked hard for all and i am not going to be reward
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Post  Windows on Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:04 am

ZZZ xprince i translated 7 words and a half u dont know math ZZZZ XDD
and u will get some point too x.x
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Post  xPRINCEx on Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:21 pm

But u think translating 7 words Mamma or other english people will understand the guide¿
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Post  Windows on Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:12 am

u know im admnisitrator if u still talking to my like that ill ban u ^^
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Post  Brigadier on Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:05 am

lol.! i'll ban you first Windows.! for being mean to our forum Guider xD
You both deserve credit especially Prince because he's been posting Guides for characters.
And.. u too windows for the translation but its only a fraction compared to Prince.
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Post  Windows on Sat Apr 04, 2009 7:21 am

x.x i dun want unseall credits man i just want he to shut up -.-"
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Post  Brigadier on Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:06 pm

Well... if there's a problem let PuRe know about it. Or PM me the problem and will discuss it another time or when ever you would like to discuss it.
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